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Oral history transcript, Phillip Tocker, interview 2 (II), 8/1/1984, by Lewis Gould (Item)

Thomas, who had telephone conversations or oral conversations with and I think wrote some letters to Bill Moyers and others advising them of our position in the matter. that was the extent of his [involvement]. But He did not appear for us at any

Oral history transcript, Edward C. Crafts, interview 2 (II), 5/12/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)

of Secretary Hickel's assistants a briefer run-down from the more lengthy one. I was told later that Hickel had not read it, and wouldn't because he doesn't like to read things. It's mostly through across the table conversations that he gets his